Health Care Reform- interesting new poll numbers from the AP

Posted on November 17th, 2009 by drew

Fixed News will not want to bring this up, so don’t look for it on any of their shows. When their propaganda outlet has folks like Rick Scott and Karl Rove on the payroll, who really should be behind bars instead of behind Murdoch’s microphones, these poll numbers clearly contradict their message. Fox has been saying all along that an overwhelming number of Americans do not want health care reform. That’s true, if you limit your survey efforts to teabaggin’ rallies that are promoted by Fox News in the first place. To help push that agenda to their unwitting viewers and listeners, they “pad the numbers” of the participants and activists present, as well as have their producers take a mic, stand before the crowd, and shout some con rhetoric to charge them up- that’s not what legitmate ethical journalists do.
But to the rest of America that struggles with the outrageous costs of insurance, medications, and treatment, we look elsewhere for the truth, and hope that our representatives are looking for creative ways to offer universal health care to every American, regardless of economic status.

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19 Responses to Health Care Reform- interesting new poll numbers from the AP

  1. Neal says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Was this a blather on your hate for news other than that with which you agree, or a diatribe on health care polls?

    I read the AP poll dated November 16, and it doesn’t seem to support your position at all. Here’s the link you forgot:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091116/ap_on_bi_ge/us_ap_poll_health_care

    And using the Huff & Puff report as a source of “legitimate ethical journalists”? What a laugh. You have a founder who has made a career out of plagiarism, who couldn’t garner more than 6/10′s of 1% of the vote in California for Governor. What a role model SHE is.

    According to the Huff & Puff report, Americans favor health care if is is paid for “BY THE RICH”.

    Wow..what a headline THAT would make:

    “LIBERALS FAVOR GIVING MONEY AWAY THAT AS LONG AS IT ISN’T THEIRS”

  2. Drew says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Huffington Post put this story on their blog, neal. The AP (that’s Associated Press, neal) did the original story. Huffington is an opinion blog, like this one. AP has journalists, and opinion blogs have, well, opinionated bloggers. You’re going to have to learn to live with people whose opinions differ from yours, ’cause there’s a LOT of them.

  3. Neal says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    The Huff & Puff attempts to look like real news…what a laugh.

    And they didn’t begin to tell the whole story of the AP poll. Read the link I sent, drew.

    And if there’s a LOT of them, how come nobody has any confidence in winning?? Except me, of course.

    Here’s one Bonlender will never blog on, after his bluster about “Follow the Money” Another joke.

    http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2009/11/17/dispute-leads-yakima-to-limit-annexations

    Hmm…7-0 against the Homebuilders?

  4. Neal says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    Also, drew, unless you’ve been under a rock for a few years, you’d know the Huff and Bluff employs reporters…taking it out of the realm of a “blog”.

    Now if they could just do something original…

  5. Drew says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 12:11 PM

    You don’t know what a blog is, do you neal?

  6. grandmere says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 12:36 PM

    The Daily Olympian posted a report on a poll of Washington’s AARP members which indicates 68 percent of its members support health care reform. http://www.theolympian.com/politicsblog/story/1039688.html

    This is in spite of the great expenditure of health care lobbyists and ads to change public opinion.

  7. Drew says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    A couple of years ago, the ratio of congressional lobbyists representing the health care industry to congressional members was 4.5 to 1. Nearly 2,500 lobbyists that do not have the best interests of Americans in mind, but are there to preserve the profits of the industry, at the expense of the American consumer. 50 million Americans without health insurance. 122 people die every day. 45,000 every year. But at least our health insurance and pharmaceutical giants are healthy. There is no moral justification for that.

  9. mainstreeter says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    The AARP is a good poll since it’s members are 50 and above.

    Do you hear the RNC has been using Cigna for its staff insurance for the past 19 years in which abortion services were offered along with “end of life” services where terminating treatment was an option?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29456.html

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/14/rnc-health-grandma/

  10. Neal says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 8:26 PM

    Trying to stay on subject here, drew;

    What exactly did the AP poll say to bolster your position? Besides the fact that liberals want other folks to pay for the plan?

  11. Drew says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 9:40 PM

    “Lawmakers also are looking at levying new taxes on insurance companies, drug companies and medical device makers. But the only approach that got majority support in the AP poll was a tax on upper-income Americans.”

    “The poll tested views on an even more punitive taxation scheme that was under consideration earlier, when the tax would have hit people making more than $250,000 a year. Even at that level the poll showed majority support, with 57 percent in favor and 36 percent opposed.”

    “An income tax increase on all Americans to pay for a health care remake – an approach Congress never considered – was overwhelmingly rejected in the poll. Seventy-five percent opposed that idea, and only nineteen percent were in favor.”
    (this one is particularly interesting, since it says nothing about the political inclinations of the people polled)

  12. Drew says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 9:42 PM

    “…liberals want other folks to pay for the plan”- Soooo, are you saying that all liberals are poor, and they want the money from the rich? You’re not saying that the wealthy are all conservatives, are you?

  13. Neal says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Good Lord, drew….no way…

    You have almost ALL of Hollywood, where all the great thinkers reside.

  14. mainstreeter says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    yes VG, Schwarzenegger, late thinkers now DEAD, Heston, Reagan,

  15. Neal says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 8:27 PM

    Mainsteeter, you left out the GREAT thinkers (who seemed to think with BOTH heads) the KENNEDYS

  16. Drew says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 9:03 PM

    Thank you for bringing up Ted Kennedy. Universal health care for every American was one of his lifelong dreams, and if the GOP quits protecting the profits of corporations that are slowly killing us, we might realize it.

  17. Drew says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 9:05 PM

    neal, do you really want to go down that road of political sex scandals? Don’t make us break out that list- it’s got a lot more cons on it than you want to see.

  18. mainstreeter says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 9:41 PM

    Neal mentioned “Hollywood”. I thought I would give a shout out to those who hold disdain of said entertainers. I forgot Ron Silver too.

  19. Drew says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 9:57 PM

    I thought his name was Ron Shillver…my bad.